EA Support of BFME

[Chrizz]

Dont know of someone knowing this already but...

1.01 - Assets fixed ''add costum models without hexing the asset.dat''
1.02 - Tank/Turret logic re-implemented So tanks will work to

[Sy]

Where did u find this information?

[key0p]

I posted a link to the letter here http://www.deezire.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=9274

[Chrizz]

ah lol a whole letter hehe thats nice to ;) but we get support of them w00t but how can we add or mail links of mods to them ? hahahah

[Koen]

I don't read anything about asset.dat in that letter... where did you get this from?

[Rene]

Nor does it state any information about an 1.02 patch. However I saw Phoib saying they would "fix" turret logic mid February. Either some people are dreaming or they actually do know more then we do...

[Sy]

I think smurf and most of the blitz team are counting on it!

[Eradicator]

Read the news. (http://www.derelictstudios.net/blitz3/index.php)
I believe that is from an e-mail between Smurf (or maybe Phoib??) and Amer.

[ravage]

now i just hope they can add JetAi!:D

[Sy]

I guess we will just have to wait and see, it all sounds very strange to me, that a company like EA is actually re-implementing something at their cost that:

1) Doesn't fix anything in the game as it stands.
2) Costs them money for no return.
3) Could potentially add new problems to the game.

Personally I think it is unlikely that EA will do this unless the functionality is required for something they will include in an expansion pack. Its been said before, EA don't care about modders, if they did they would have put more thought into the design of the engine and learnt a few lessons from Generals and ZH instead of making it more complicated to mod and adding extra layers of abstraction like the asset.dat

[Hostile]

Maybe they are looking to extend the shelf life of the game. Than it has a monetary value in a way.

[Sy]

Sorry, can't see that either, EA don't want people playing the same game for long. They want people to buy games, play them for a bit then buy the next title they produce. Having loyal and devoted fans to a particular game isn't good for them, because real fans don't play lots of new games, they stick to the game they love.

[Kelso]

I was honestly very surprised that they said they were going to do these patch-related items.

I have to turn my nose up at people who have a searing hatred for EA because of the things they do. You guys are looking at it the wrong way. The are a large corporation and the goal of any corporation is to make money. They are not a smaller studio like say, id or valve or (ugh) 3drealms. They don't make 1 game a year or, for some of them, 1 game every several years. They aren't creating games with the mindset that people will be playing them years and years down the road. I don't think you can scold them for that, that is what their goal is and they accomplish it very very well. It is unfortunate that we as modders get overlooked, but we chose to mod in the first place and we chose to mod these games, so ultimately we have to deal with what is given to us.

[Phoib]

Nor does it state any information about an 1.02 patch. However I saw Phoib saying they would "fix" turret logic mid February. Either some people are dreaming or they actually do know more then we do...
I got it confirmed by Amer about a week ago.

Assets.dat, tankdraw and turrets.

Been busy asking for details (eg, Amer says that barrels are in, but I havent got them to work, anyone did?), then I'll ask for more.

My current wishlist: JetAI, DeliverPayload.

I havent seen very usefull other requests...

[Sy]

Did he say why they are putting this functionality back into the game?

It just seems odd to me that a comercial company would do anything for nothing.

I've searched for announcements on BFME Amer and patch 1.01 and I cannot find mention of anything that has been posted here, however what I did find and this is the same on most announcements is:

Buddy list with messenger: We know that a lot of people have been asking for a fully functioning online messenger, and we’re working on including one in 1.01.
New multiplayer maps: Patch 1.01 will include three, possibly four, new multiplayer maps created by our team.
Improved NAT connection: We’re constantly tweaking our network code to make it more streamlined and supportive of as many routers and firewalls as possible. Having said that, users that are experiencing NAT issues should refer to the readme, as it contains a lot of information for possible workarounds.
World Builder fixes: Several World Builder issues, such as the grove/tree tool freezes, will be addressed.
Video card glitches: We’re working with Nvidia to try and solve the rare crash that occurs with some 5900 Ultra cards.
Chat lobby glitches: The issue where selecting one user will sometimes select all users in the chat lobbies will be addressed.

We’re also going to be carefully reviewing race balance and make any tweaks necessary. Patch 1.01 is currently scheduled for release in mid-January.

No mention of asset.dat being removed and no mention of tank code being re-implemented.

If they are adding this funcationality, why are they keeping it a secret? why haven't they announced it along with the rest of the modifications?

[Phoib]

He assured it to me in an email, after I made clear that with Assets.dat and without turrets there wouldnt be a modding community.

[Sy]

I guess we will just have to wait and see then....Although not all mods require tanks and turrets...there is life beyond modern warfare :)

And Koen has proven that the asset.dat can be overcome.

[Rene]

Nor does it state any information about an 1.02 patch. However I saw Phoib saying they would "fix" turret logic mid February. Either some people are dreaming or they actually do know more then we do...
I got it confirmed by Amer about a week ago.

Assets.dat, tankdraw and turrets.

Been busy asking for details (eg, Amer says that barrels are in, but I havent got them to work, anyone did?), then I'll ask for more.

My current wishlist: JetAI, DeliverPayload.

I havent seen very usefull other requests...

I am suprised to see they are actually doing this but as long as it benefits us you won't here me complain.

If you see the chance, could you ask what the two new chunks in the w3d file format are for? The format has been extended but our tools haven't so we won't be able to create this data. I would just like to know what we are missing out on...

[Eradicator]

Phoib, we've already implemented turrets and fixed the asset.dat without EA.

[Phoib]

Can we limit the turret traverse with the passenger-fix?

[Koen]

Yes, we already have it but... well... if they'd change the game so it doesn't require it anymore a modders life would become easier. And mods wouldn't have to include asset.dat which takes up 1 MB of space.

[key0p]

oops, guess I didnt read it there.It was at the same time I read and posted the letter though.Oh well