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Seafox · 07-22-2003, 06:26 PM

Well...it's not in the online encyclopedia.

In Deezire's Tutorial is this entry...

"SecretHouses=
Specifies the sides which can own this object when a structure with SecretLab=yes set is captured. This can be used to restrict who gets what, so for example if you gave the Sniper SecretHouses=Americans then only the Americans would be able to get him as a 'secret' unit when they captured a Secret Lab."

And yet, in the Yuri's RulesMD is this...

";Yuri, bender of spoons!
[YURI]
UIName=Name:YuriClone
Name=Yuri Clone
Prerequisite=YABRCK,RADAR
PrerequisiteOverride=YACOMD
Pip=red
Category=Soldier
Strength=100
LeadershipRating=8
Primary=MindControl
Secondary=PsiWave
TypeImmune=yes
Armor=none
TechLevel=4
CrushSound=InfantrySquish
Insignificant=no
Sight=12
Speed=4
Owner=Russians,Confederation,Africans,Arabs,YuriCo untry,British,French,Germans,Americans,Alliance
SecretHouses=YuriCountry
AllowedToStartInMultiplayer=no
Cost=800
Soylent=400
Points=5
IsSelectableCombatant=yes
VoiceSelect=YuriCloneSelect
VoiceMove=YuriCloneMove
VoiceAttack=YuriCloneAttackCommand
VoiceFeedback=YuriCloneFear
VoiceSpecialAttack=YuriCloneMove
DieSound=YuriCloneDie
Locomotor={4A582744-9839-11d1-B709-00A024DDAFD1}
PhysicalSize=1
MovementZone=Infantry
ThreatPosed=15 ; This value MUST be 0 for all building addons
ImmuneToVeins=yes
ImmuneToPsionics=yes
VeteranAbilities=STRONGER,FIREPOWER,ROF,SIGHT,FAST ER
EliteAbilities=SELF_HEAL,STRONGER,FIREPOWER,ROF
Deployer=yes
DeployFire=yes
UndeployDelay=150
Size=1
DetectDisguise=yes
IFVMode=8"

Now, why would the Yuri Army need to get the Yuri Clone from the Secret Lab? So, from this context, it seems like the tag is supposed to limit the houses that can get it as Secret Tech...but wait, there's more! :lol:

I may have my own hypothesis on the way the tag works (from some experiments), but also, unfortunately, this makes it of limited use. I think the tag doesn't restrict who can get the tech from the Lab, but who can actually use it. Here's an example of my theory.

The only two things the Lab can give out right now are a Parabomb Upgrade and Desolators. The Player is Britain and the DESO has SecretHouses=Britain set for the purposes of the example.

Now, the player has a 50/50 chance of getting either Tech. If he gets the Parabomb tech, he can build the upgrade. But if he gets the DESO tech, he can't build it becuase of the SecretHouses= tag, no icon, no nothing. Or least, that's my twisted theory.

Thoughts, comments? I really hope someone has an opposing view. :lol: The tag is rather unhelpful, I don't want Tech that can't be built to be awarded at all.

EDIT: I have conducted some experiments, trying to use the tag in context from the rules and DeeZire's way as well. It seems even that theory is off. My personal thoughts are that even though the tag seems valid, I can't get it to do anything one way or another.

07-22-2003, 06:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
Seafox Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana, United States Posts: 110	Well...it's not in the online encyclopedia. In Deezire's Tutorial is this entry... "SecretHouses= Specifies the sides which can own this object when a structure with SecretLab=yes set is captured. This can be used to restrict who gets what, so for example if you gave the Sniper SecretHouses=Americans then only the Americans would be able to get him as a 'secret' unit when they captured a Secret Lab." And yet, in the Yuri's RulesMD is this... ";Yuri, bender of spoons! [YURI] UIName=Name:YuriClone Name=Yuri Clone Prerequisite=YABRCK,RADAR PrerequisiteOverride=YACOMD Pip=red Category=Soldier Strength=100 LeadershipRating=8 Primary=MindControl Secondary=PsiWave TypeImmune=yes Armor=none TechLevel=4 CrushSound=InfantrySquish Insignificant=no Sight=12 Speed=4 Owner=Russians,Confederation,Africans,Arabs,YuriCo untry,British,French,Germans,Americans,Alliance SecretHouses=YuriCountry AllowedToStartInMultiplayer=no Cost=800 Soylent=400 Points=5 IsSelectableCombatant=yes VoiceSelect=YuriCloneSelect VoiceMove=YuriCloneMove VoiceAttack=YuriCloneAttackCommand VoiceFeedback=YuriCloneFear VoiceSpecialAttack=YuriCloneMove DieSound=YuriCloneDie Locomotor={4A582744-9839-11d1-B709-00A024DDAFD1} PhysicalSize=1 MovementZone=Infantry ThreatPosed=15 ; This value MUST be 0 for all building addons ImmuneToVeins=yes ImmuneToPsionics=yes VeteranAbilities=STRONGER,FIREPOWER,ROF,SIGHT,FAST ER EliteAbilities=SELF_HEAL,STRONGER,FIREPOWER,ROF Deployer=yes DeployFire=yes UndeployDelay=150 Size=1 DetectDisguise=yes IFVMode=8" Now, why would the Yuri Army need to get the Yuri Clone from the Secret Lab? So, from this context, it seems like the tag is supposed to limit the houses that can get it as Secret Tech...but wait, there's more! :lol: I may have my own hypothesis on the way the tag works (from some experiments), but also, unfortunately, this makes it of limited use. I think the tag doesn't restrict who can get the tech from the Lab, but who can actually use it. Here's an example of my theory. The only two things the Lab can give out right now are a Parabomb Upgrade and Desolators. The Player is Britain and the DESO has SecretHouses=Britain set for the purposes of the example. Now, the player has a 50/50 chance of getting either Tech. If he gets the Parabomb tech, he can build the upgrade. But if he gets the DESO tech, he can't build it becuase of the SecretHouses= tag, no icon, no nothing. Or least, that's my twisted theory. Thoughts, comments? I really hope someone has an opposing view. :lol: The tag is rather unhelpful, I don't want Tech that can't be built to be awarded at all. EDIT: I have conducted some experiments, trying to use the tag in context from the rules and DeeZire's way as well. It seems even that theory is off. My personal thoughts are that even though the tag seems valid, I can't get it to do anything one way or another.