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Old 05-02-2003, 01:19 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I want to do Front Mission 1.
but Front Mission 3 is OK.
even better if you do Front Mission 2.
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Old 05-02-2003, 01:43 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I think it would be better if you just made an original mod about mechs...maybe borrowing the best types of mechs from the many different games/anime's out there and use them in the mod....

plus this way you wouldn't have any worries about legal problems
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Old 05-02-2003, 05:12 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I'm personally up for a Mechmod , I love Mechs. I could do some coding/skinning. Also if you need a website I could provide you a lot of graphical stuff .
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Old 05-02-2003, 05:53 AM   #14 (permalink)
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im working on ring raiders otherwise i would help you i am very good at 3d modelling
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Old 05-02-2003, 06:38 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I think it would be better if you just made an original mod about mechs...maybe borrowing the best types of mechs from the many different games/anime's out there and use them in the mod....

plus this way you wouldn't have any worries about legal problems

i don't know if you've played front mission 3 but if you haven't you should... its one of Square softs richest and most well written stories... and right now we're going to build off that...

i was talking to tratos on MSN who has some damn good ideas that we will try to use...

And everyone who wants to join us is welcome to help because we need it... but i prefer the talented people that really have a desire and passion to have front mission 3 live again... like Tratos...Zoop and Henford because they have a working knowledge of the story and wide variety of mech design in the game... but like i said everyone is welcome to help us... and thanks for the replies
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Old 05-02-2003, 06:44 AM   #16 (permalink)
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well, actually ... i woudlnt know what the heck Front Mission is i jsut thought that mech looked cool heh i shall see what i can do this weekend
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Old 05-02-2003, 07:28 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Heres a little background on front mission 3...


Being a Squaresoft product, the story comes first and foremost, of course. It revolves around a young Japanese Wanzer (mech) test pilot named Kazuki, who, along with his irresponsible friend Ryogo, unwittingly steps into an international incident that threatens his adopted sister Alisa. As he tries to discover what has happened, he finds himself being hunted by his own country as well as various international agents who have taken an interest in what he knows. As the game progresses, the plot only becomes more and more complex, and it becomes difficult to figure out who's really on your side. This is underscored by one of the game's most ingenious features, the unique dual story system. Based on an almost trivial decision you make very early in the game, the plot follows one of two very different paths which both need to be played to appreciate the full scope of the game. It's nothing short of shocking to see characters from one path show up in the other, only now they're not fighting on the side you'd expect. Old battlefields are also sometimes revisited on entirely different missions sometimes with opposite objectives. In fact, the two branches hold almost nothing in common except for a few basics and really provide two games in one, but result in an incredibly deeper and more fleshed-out plot than if only one path would have been provided.


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That's not all there is to it, though. The plot is also furthered through Front Mission 3's innovative and incredibly well implemented internet. Square's vision of internet connectivity is a happy one, as you can get free broadband access to forums (websites), e-mail, online parts shops, and free online storage space at any of the ever-present network kiosks that you'll find everywhere you go (running PlayOnline, perhaps?). All this without an ad banner in sight. Although some forums are viewable from the outset of the game, others can only be found by learning their addresses from people you meet, through e-mail, and sometimes by defeating certain enemies in battle. These forums provide the game with a rich and almost unrivaled backstory. Some sites also require passwords to access confidential information, which you'll have to find through some clever guesswork. In one case you get tipped off to the location of an Australian spenders site (the term for hackers in the lingo of the 22nd century) after you rescue one of their buddies from OCU troops. After sifting through some BBS posts that provide a few more clues, you find a log of an online session belonging to some OCU bigwig. Unfortunately, it's corrupted, and remains useless until you find an online software company selling "Restrex", a handy file repair utility. After charging it to your electronic account and downloading it, you run it, and... success! It's now readable, and contains a full list of sites visited, files downloaded, and passwords entered. In other cases you'll need to use a little more thought, and try names of personnel, or perhaps swap out letters with corresponding numbers. E-mail is also handled cleverly; the game automatically creates a mailbox for each of your characters, and you can send prewritten responses to e-mail you receive from your address book, or decide to ignore them altogether. Once you figure out the system they use for assigning addresses, you can also manually type in ones that you think will work. In one of the coolest secrets in a long while, you can actually e-mail Square. Sadly, they don't have a website, and thus you can't download Final Fantasy CXVIII in one of the game's few disappointments. The whole online system is so well done, with a little polish it could almost be a game of its own. As it is, it adds a lot to the plot and makes it seem a lot more like a real world while providing some secrets that can't be accessed any other way.


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All this impressive plot development creates an impressive canvas on which to develop the characters, and Front Mission 3 is no slouch in this department either. All the characters are interesting and lively, if a little strange, such as the USN's elite purple and orange Wanzer unit named Purple Haze, and the shady commando group known only as the Imaginary Numbers. Front Mission 3 also provides the unique opportunity to see most of the game's characters both fighting alongside you and looking down the barrel of their guns, which is an odd experience to say the least.


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All the action is also depicted on-screen in vivid 3D, complete with muzzle flashes, smoke trails, grinding metal, and sparking dismembered mechs. The only graphical disappointment is the tactical view in battle, which uses somewhat sparsely animated sprites on a 3D background. However, the transition from sprites to a close-in 3D model is seamless and almost unnoticeable. The graphics are also accompanied by a good musical score and excellent sound effects which always effectively compliment the on-screen action. While none of the tunes are quite as memorable as Uematsu's latest, they're more than adequate.

The battles are handled through an interesting system that isn't quite as sophisticated as that of Final Fantasy Tactics, but comes close. The Wanzers piloted in battle consist of an interchangeable body, arms, legs, and backpack that can be swapped out and upgraded at various Wanzer shops and with parts from captured enemy units. Although progressively more powerful weapons become available as you find new shops as dictated by long-standing tradition, few Wanzer parts are better in all areas than others, so players are forced to balance weight, hit points, accuracy, and movement to find the best setup they want each of their units to play. In some cases you're forced to sacrifice hit points or movement in order to fit the latest in destructive weaponry. Your implements of destruction consist of meleé weapons, machine guns, shotguns, sniper rifles, missiles, grenade launchers, and flamethrowers, all of which have varying ranges, strengths, and damage patterns. While a nice fist weapon will dole out the most damage if you're willing to fight in close, if your opponent's only weapon arm is at the verge of being destroyed you might want to favor the distributed damage of a shotgun to ensure that you disable him instead of running the risk of merely hitting him in a non-vital area. Other weapons such as the flamethrower have such low accuracy that they don't become practical until better models become available and your pilots have become experienced with them through regular simulator practice. This leaves plenty of room for experimentation, allowing you to build a squad of close-in heavy hitters, long range attackers, or a team with a balance of fighting styles.
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Old 05-02-2003, 07:38 AM   #18 (permalink)
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i love FM3 its SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOOD!! ill help out when Fallout is done i should have more spare time then.

so what u gonna do? can u upgrade parts of the mechs?? guns arms bodys ect..??
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Old 05-02-2003, 09:02 AM   #19 (permalink)
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i love FM3 its SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOOD!! ill help out when Fallout is done i should have more spare time then.

so what u gonna do? can u upgrade parts of the mechs?? guns arms bodys ect..??

Yes... the upgrades and all the weapons used in front mission 3 can be accomplished in Generals like the Melee - fists/knuckles, spikes, batons and the "Hard"blow... Burst weapons that fire more than one shot like machineguns, shotguns and flamethrowers...
"One-shot" weapons, these are weapons that fire only one shot. weapons that belong to this group are rifles, cannons, and the experimental particle beam laser... "artillery". basically, these are your heavy shoulder weapons - missile and grenade launchers.

... right now... we're going to have "JDF" "DHZ" "OCU" "Purple haze" " Imaginary Number's" and "RRF" as factions plus we're adding in the mercenaries
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Old 05-02-2003, 12:15 PM   #20 (permalink)
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yeah im in for sure when Fallout is done as well, but I also am helping that Ring Raiders Mod :P it looks soooo cool!!!
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