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Old 07-03-2004, 03:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Well count me in to help do some coding and cameos and stuff. It'll give me alittle break from my mod.
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Old 07-03-2004, 05:00 PM   #12 (permalink)
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if anyone has the program 3D Studio Max you may find this site useful as it has a martian tripod which looks pretty cool, and it has the flyer from the film which looks pants, and a bunch of other cool stuff that you may like.

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~dproc/
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Old 07-04-2004, 03:55 AM   #13 (permalink)
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didnt get *alot of time today, but another update pic.

http://www.geocities.com/kurai__warrior/cncpage

as to the 3ds max vertions, sure, anyone can make em like that when they arent worrying about a poly limit. lol.
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Old 07-04-2004, 08:24 AM   #14 (permalink)
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hey its still good, well yesterday I started a very rough model of the martain drone, its basicly the martain answer to the GLA bomb truck. however unlike the GLA bomb truck this one cant be cammonflarged, moves a lot quicker and has a heavier payload.

The problems with it is that it is unmaned and there is a delay in its order responce (like the US sentry drone) and its turning circle is slow (lol like the US sentry drone.) and its armour is very very weak.

I'll try to get a pic up soon as im finished but be assured its very ammeture work and only a draft so if someone with much better skills can see what I was aiming at and wants to make it better, the chance is there.

Also about the heat rays, I havnt done any editing to how weapon systems can be altered but what I was originally thinking of for some of the more advanced heat rays was if someone was to take the lasers and alter their properties so when they are fired its not just a zap! they fire and remain there for a short while longer before they fade away, and then change the sound effect to make it more appropriate,

I dont really want to use the dragon tanks fire ability because I dont think it'll look correct even though its technically correct being a heat ray. I have something else planned for the dragon tanks fire ability.
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Old 07-04-2004, 01:08 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I think the heat ray would best be used from the microwave tank effect or the chinese emp tank effect, than touch it up. The damage type could be FLAME.
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Old 07-04-2004, 01:34 PM   #16 (permalink)
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thats a good idea using the microwave tank's beam. it'll look more ray like then a laser, just needs a redish coat of paint however I do like those lasers so they should be cool for some of the units.

anyway I just thought I'd show you these. now lets keep the laughter to a minimum im only learning with the modeling stuff at the moment, in fact the martian con unit was the first model I ever made!

This first one is my initial idea for the drone unit I mentioned earlier.

http://server6.uploadit.org/files/Pe...rtaindrone.JPG

this one is the initial desing for the construction unit for the martians. and If you were wondering how to animate a tripod lol well this one is gonna be a nightmare!

http://server6.uploadit.org/files/Pe...ianconunit.JPG

that design is taken stright from HG wells picture, those claws originally grap onto people and then throws them into that crown like thing on its top. but I just thought it was a good design for a dozer.

those are just initial ideas for what I think is appropriate but they do need tons of work yet.

maybe I should start work on a website or at least get some forums up and running...
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Old 07-04-2004, 09:36 PM   #17 (permalink)
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well spent my sunday night working on the martain version of the dozer the martain handling machine and here it is,

http://server6.uploadit.org/files/Pe...anconunit2.JPG


skin could be better I know, any other comments, (nothing too cruel it was my first model)

also im looking to get a HQ for the mod so if anyone knows any decent FREE web site making place things please let me know, I'll worry about hosting later.

Also if anyone wants to help out with model making let me know and I'll assign a task for you, no serious deadlines or anything for work to be done just whenever you can, also if you do make something you get to be the official cool guy or girl (are there any girl C&C community members?) of the day.
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Old 07-04-2004, 11:47 PM   #18 (permalink)
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for a decent free site try freedom studios http://www.freedomstudios.net/ and revora network http://hive.game-mod.net/
both are great . I originally had tib moon at revora but it is really big now and freedom studios is brand new so try whichever one you want out
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Old 07-05-2004, 12:48 AM   #19 (permalink)
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WOW,i always wondered how many people have or even knew about the musical version that was released around the winter of 1978 as a double 12 inch orchestrated disco album.

It was very obscure back then.Never even got any radio airplay.
I brought it at a record store that had a section for new but unusal disco music.
That section had disco versions of ROMEO AND JULIET,THE HUNCHACK OF NOTRA DAME,JUDAS AND SIMON PETER,SUPERMAN and about 15 other well known stories...i had just gotten paid that day...i brought them all.

Today my copy still plays as if it came off a cd.

If you listen to it in proper order,it tells the story from start to finish.

Remember this line: THE CHANCES OF ANYTHING COMING FROM MARS,ARE A MILLION TO ONE...BUT STILL THEY COME

The late Richard Burton narrates through out the song.
What would be cool is to use his opening narration and the first 3 orchestral hits to the shell map.

If you want i can compose a tekno version of that for the shell map intro.

Anyway,this is just an idea,if your going to stick to the original story line then the mod should have the old military units from the late 1800's [ i think thats the era when the invasion takes place].

Since the martians were really powerful and all humanity unites to fight them,then you could make it so that the player has to relie on the second faction to help him during skirmish.

It wouldnt make much sense to fight the martinas and a human faction since the martians regard ALL humanity as their enemys.
That way you can have and need huge armies to attack and defeat them.

I never read the book so i doubt that there were any terrorist factions in it,so you can replace the GLA and use that slot for the martains.

Change the USA and CHINA into all the UK units and eliminate all the superweapons from the human side and modify them for the martians.

Mod the war factories to supply 3 , 4 or more units for the price of one on the human side,since this would be a battle of advanced technology.vs.primitive massive armies.

From what i understand,the BLIZTKREIG team remodeled all the buildings in Generals so maybe you can get permission from them to use them in your mod.that would be closer to reflecting the era of the original story.

Or you could combine the original machines with that of the 1950's movie version so you could have ground and air units.

I do remember that when they were making the 1950's movie version,
they wanted to use some sort of electrical energy running down the legs of the martinan war machines.
[i don't know if that was described in the book] but they could not figure on how to do it with the SFX technology that they had back then.

Don't forget the RED MIST thats mentioned in the musical version,that kills everything in its path

No one would have believed in the last years of the nineteenth century that this world was being watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than man's and yet as mortal as his own; that as men busied themselves about their various concerns they were scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water.
With infinite complacency men went to and fro over this globe about their little affairs, serene in their assurance of their empire over matter.
It is possible that the infusoria under the microscope do the same.
No one gave a thought to the older worlds of space as sources of human danger, or thought of them only to dismiss the idea of life upon them as impossible or improbable.
It is curious to recall some of the mental habits of those departed days.
At most terrestrial men fancied there might be other men upon Mars, perhaps inferior to themselves and ready to welcome a missionary enterprise.
Yet across the gulf of space, minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us
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Old 07-05-2004, 12:16 PM   #20 (permalink)
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well adamstrange if you would like to compose some music please do so, I was going to include some of the music from the original but we can see what you produce that'd be great.

as ive already said the ultimate goal is to totally make generals into the original war of the worlds setting with the british army from the year 1889. however im not a fool and know that it would take months to produce that and people may change their minds about contributing and hell C&C 4 may come out! (generals is the 3rd one) so the main goal for now is to add the martain units in some way and if im lucky add martain structures, then I'll think about adding a real 1889 UK side to the mix.

about this...

"Since the martians were really powerful and all humanity unites to fight them,then you could make it so that the player has to relie on the second faction to help him during skirmish."

as interesting as it is I dont want to go down that road simply because it'd be hell to find a right ballance of power, im going to make the martains pretty powerful as it is but I dont want them to find it challenging to defeat 2 average human opponents as it would take them to defeat one oponent.

"I never read the book so i doubt that there were any terrorist factions in it,so you can replace the GLA and use that slot for the martains."

Yes and no, I definately want US and China to stay in the mod unchanged (at the moment) because if an alien invasion took place then country armies would be the ones who respond to the threat as primary defenses. however imagine humanity was failing in the war effort, a breakdown in society and law and order would begin and people would arm themselves (look at the US during the first radio boradcast, and in one later boradcast a mod burned down a building in the panic.) and form miniture resistance factions of their own, also if humanity did fall then in a post apocalyptic world the resistance would be scrounging for weaponry and produce sides that very much resembled the GLA in this game. (look at the resistance battle in Terminator 2 at the beginning)

"Change the USA and CHINA into all the UK units and eliminate all the superweapons from the human side and modify them for the martians."

nope. wont do it, maybe if I do a total conversion into the 1889 side but for the martain vs US/china/gla they must maintain their superweapons. simply because of ballance reasons. the superweapons must be kept, and even if I did a total conversion the UK side would have a superweapon of some kind but im not sure what it would entail (no suggestions yet please)

"Mod the war factories to supply 3 , 4 or more units for the price of one on the human side,since this would be a battle of advanced technology.vs.primitive massive armies."

this sounds very much like the rage softweare game that came out a few years back, I had considered doing this but ive decided not to go down that road, the martains will have one big weakness which will disadvantage even the best of players and give the US and china players a heavy advantage if they discover what the secret is, GLA will have a harder time though.

The Blitz team idea would help a lot with structures however the weapons are much to advanced for an accurate reflection of the time, however what you sugested is similar to a thought I had a few days ago, If I got a martain side fully up and running then I would ask people on mods who either added a new side (e.g. secondwave/rise of the reds) or total conversions, (e.g. blitz2, the finest hour) if they would be interested in making a new mod that added their primary new side to the martains and have a sort of global battle, the idea was that if an alien invasion occured then they wouldnt just be fighting US and China, they would be fighting countries from all over the world like russia, UK, Japan, Holland, EU etc. so rather than making a mod that forever adds new countries for the martains to fight (because that would take years and the mod would be huge in size!) asking the owners of mods if they would like to combine their favourite army with the war of the worlds mod and then there would almost be a feel of a total invasion, the martains are here, they are fighting not just the standard US and China but fighting the fan made sides that have been added... however the problem with this is getting permission because a lot of people are very toutchy when it comes to their work and the idea of combining mods usually gets greated by laughter.

"Or you could combine the original machines with that of the 1950's movie version so you could have ground and air units."

thats pretty much what im doing, the tripods from the musical and the imagry generated in the novel will be used, however the film tripod im not going to use because it looks pants, but the aircraft design i will use for one of the units.

"Don't forget the RED MIST thats mentioned in the musical version,that kills everything in its path"

I think you mean the Red Weed, or the black gas. thats going to be in it too.

thanks for the input.
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