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Old 03-20-2005, 09:08 AM   #21 (permalink)
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If you think America is still overpowered your dead wrong and I wouldn't trust you to make a mod.

I entirely agree with Godwin. I've known him as a modder for a long time and I was one of the people lucky enough to get a beta of AR2. Believe me, he knows what he's talking about.

If you think America is so over-balanced, why is it that a Chinese player can easily out-spy an American? America has two "spy systems" 1 of them costing a gens point. China has 2 (at least) that cost only money and are permanent. You can't get rid of the command center reveal unless you destroy the enemy base which takes along time..

Plus America was over-powered again? hmm.. why is it a GLA player can wipe the board of America and China with no trouble if they know what they are doing.. but America is still over-powered..

Noticed how Gattling and Quads rip through an American aircraft in seconds? But wait America is still over-powered...

How about the fact that all 3 of the American Generals can be easily RIPPED by even a n00b player? The only other general who can is Prince Kassad.

You know nothing of balance, I wouldn't trust you with a mod let alone a "balance mod". As Godwin said, Rushing is not a bug, it's how some people play. Calling that a bug is just pathetic.

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Old 03-20-2005, 10:44 AM   #22 (permalink)
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America as a team is not overpowered, but i wouldnt go far and say the game is completly balenced or bug free, Godwin is correct, Rushing is not a bug but a tatic, a humvee shooting air with a machine gun is a bug, focus on bugs first, usually fixing bugs, fixes balances.
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Old 03-20-2005, 12:44 PM   #23 (permalink)
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First of all:
Read FleetCommands last post, your comments aren't supposed to exist, nobody wants to hear them, we'll do what we want!

Thank god, I don't need Godwin's or Wize's permission for modding.

Also Wize seems to halluzinate!! I never wrote one word against rushing!

I was talking about the Aurora for example, but you have to make it personal, again..

Fine with me, it's always good to know, who can't be reasoned with!
Thanx :drunk:
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Old 03-20-2005, 04:29 PM   #24 (permalink)
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1. FleetCommand Spoke About Rushing. Did I ever say who did?

and for your information, I actually created a mod that was a balance patch for the Gen Online Community. It's amazing that after advertising it on the Gen boards I had so many people download and use it just before V1.02 came out. Somehow I think i'm in a better position of knowledge than you.
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Old 03-20-2005, 05:39 PM   #25 (permalink)
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People, may I ask you to keep up a friendly environment?

If I was a moderator I'd have shut this topic down by now. I asked you people three times to write your ideas and comments about ZH 1.03 balance status. None of you did; either you didn't have any or you didn't want to share. So, there is still nothing to fight for.

Do you have any new idea you'd like to share? I eagerly keep scaning this topic for them. By the way, my friends, the statement "...can be a good point for start" does neither means that I want you to strictly talk about IT, nor means "...it's a bug."
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Old 03-20-2005, 05:45 PM   #26 (permalink)
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... and please accept my apologize if don't envy your masterpeace work, Wize. I'd appreciate if you provide a link to it so me too, join the sqaud of its downloaders.
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Old 03-20-2005, 06:01 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I think balance is something that is unachievable unless you lock the game to set rules, which ZH players don’t.

If you say in a match no rush this puts the GLA at a severe disadvantage having crap base defences and good early mobility and cheap stuff.

If you say no SW it puts USA at a advantage because unless the n00bs plan bases like sardine cans the partial cannon sux.

The fact is these are player enforced rules not ones that are set by pre match options but are a big part of online play. Probably only created to unbalance the game in the creators favour, but thats life.

In my opinion you can only balance the game by ensuring that one side beats one side and that side beats the third side (in a rock paper scissors way)
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Old 03-20-2005, 06:19 PM   #28 (permalink)
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^We don't want to reach "Absolute Zero". Just the Starcraft players don't nag about unfair configuration, but ZH players do.
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Old 03-20-2005, 08:39 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Who said it should be envied? It was up for download, 1.02 came out and I took it down. 'nuff Said.
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^ Do you know what 'metaphor' is?
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