[Blade]

While I appreciate your stance, I think you are being hypocritical to continue to allow any thread in this forum to remain open at all if you are basing your judgement soely on the terms of the EULA (portions of which may or may not be valid depending on where you live and who your are). To reiterate your quote:

You also may not copy, modify, adapt, translate, create derivative works of, publicly perform, publicly display, distribute, transmit, decompile, disassemble or otherwise reverse engineer or attempt to reverse engineer or derive source code from, all or any portion of the Product or anything incorporated therein, including any screen display, sound or accompanying documentation, or permit or encourage any third party to do so.

This applies to every form of mod right down to the simple .ini mods such as Marshall's 1.002 UMP and as such you should have locked virtually every thread in here. Altering the exe is no more or less an acceptable violation of the EULA than when Olaf reverse engineered the mix and voxel formats (with help from a great many other talented people might I add) or when the normals format what elucidated. While Olaf's work was probably a bit before the time of this forum (since DeeZire's modifications which clearly violate the EULA themselves were made possible by those developments), the normals certainly were not and were discussed here. This whole forum and indeed community is built upon violating the EULA of YR and RA2.
On top of this, no materials were directly posted to these forums that violate the EULA and IMO the discussion was an expression of freedom of speech like so many other 'hack the exe' threads before it have been. The fact that this one pertained to an actual working hack is IMO irrelevant to your argument for closing it.
I would advise you to either unlock the thread(s) pertaining to this type of modification or to lock any and all threads in this message board that pertain to modifying, creating and distributing derivative works of WW/EA's intellectual property. I'm fairly sure your mandate as a moderator is not to show bias against particular types of modification just because it requires a very specific and (in this community) rare skill set.

BTW, I advise anyone that supports this argument to NOT post additional comments, particularly emotionally loaded ones criticising 'The Ends' decision further until he has considered the points I raise here.

[Komataguri]

Blade, I wll state this simply.


This is DeeZire's site, His name is on the servers registration, if legal repricutions were to come [ Its a long shot, but still ] they would falll soley on DeeZire.


Thus, Until such time DeeZire has reviewed the aformentioned topics, They will remain closed. He and He alone has the right to choose weither or not he wants to open himself up to legal issues of delving into the program code inside the .exe files.

[The End 007]

Originally Posted by Komataguri";p=&quot

Blade, I wll state this simply.


This is DeeZire's site, His name is on the servers registration, if legal repricutions were to come [ Its a long shot, but still ] they would falll soley on DeeZire.


Thus, Until such time DeeZire has reviewed the aformentioned topics, They will remain closed. He and He alone has the right to choose weither or not he wants to open himself up to legal issues of delving into the program code inside the .exe files.

Exactly.

In the original thread I said it was temporary:

Originally Posted by The End 007

so I'm temporarily locking

I apologised I know it is awkward but if it is that greater thing I'm sure you can wait a few hours. It is just checking to make sure as DZ has a very clear stance on anything illegal including trainers, hacks, no CD-Cracks and Warez, none of which work with any of DZs work. Had you been patient and accepted that this TEMPORARY measure just to be clear on DeeZire’s opinion on the matter was clear I’m sure there would not be problems, had DZ himself locked the thread I’m willing to bet you would moan and complain till the cows come home, but I’m not and as such you feel the right to question my choices because you don’t see the problem. Fact is some things I find acceptable DZ does not at least not on his forums but regardless of my views I stick to DZ’s views this being his forum and it being his name on the registration all content on this site is his responsibility I respect his views and I respect his site. Because of this some thing I like to make sure as while personally I don’t see much wrong with what is going on it does borderline on being illegal as you are altering the source code. Mods alter aspects of the game, altering source code alters the way the game works, that is the difference and technically yes EA could come a sue every madder but they don’t because mods do little more then encourage people to buy the game, altering the source code however is dangerous it can be used to gain access to peoples PCs and all kinds of other things, which is why open source programs are the only ones which openly allow people to edit the source code as other people can see (and theoretically understand the base code and the altered code and therefore spot) any malicious code.

As I said in the first post in the first thread it was temporary to check to make sure as DZ would be the one to get it in the ass if it goes wrong but five minutes later you’re already bitching about it and trying to circumvent my decisions based on what as a moderator I thought was best for both the forum and the members. And to add to this, this could have been a PM rather then continuing this in the open forum. If you have any more to say on the matter feel free to PM me I’m not just doing this to piss you guys off Komatguri also sees what my point is and should DZ approve the thread/s will be reopened as I said they would. Just stop being impatient children.

[Blade]

At no point have I attempted to circumvent your decision (other might have done, but I am not responsible for their behaviour), I have just openly questioned the validity of it and suggested that you reverse it and leave the decision to censor what is IMO perfectly legal discussion to DeeZire, at which point I would take it up with him. At anyrate, perhaps continuing the public criticism of yourself was a premature decision on my part and so I have taken this discussion to private messages.

BTW, I cannot be considered by any defintion of the word a child and even if I were it would not make my argument any less valid. Don't be so ageist

Edit:
Arrgh, I've just read your comments on the 'difference' between modding and hacking and your attempts to 'interpret' the EULA in the second thread to start. Given that I can no longer post a comment there, I must say here that you really don't understand the terms at all it seems. Any modder who has analysed a part of how the game works (the .ini files, the .mix files, whatever) is a hacker by definition, DeeZire is a hacker, I'm a hacker, virtually everone on this board would fall into the classification as a hacker. We're not assembly hackers, but we are hackers none the less.

[pd]

I think this argumentations here are also interesting for DZ to decide what he'll do.
They're not against the moderators.

@ The End:
You mentioned CD Cracks etc.
Yep, they're assembly hacks just like mine, but there's one important difference:

Thus No-CD Cracks can be a danger for EA's selling etc.
They make it possible to get the game without paying for it.

But as I only modify parts of the exe which may open new possibilities for modders (even for DZ himself), EA doesn't need to care of it, because

1. It's NO danger for their selling and
2. they do not plan (at least they don't officially) any more updates for YR.

That means their work's ready and they care of other stuff.

And - this is my personal opinion - I think when a game's ready but there are still things that could be improved which won't be improved by the authors, this should be done by the users themselves if they need it.

I have to agree with Blade here.
Actually, DZ would have to close this whole website as each kind of modding is an illegal act.

But it's his decision and I'll wait for it.
I hope he reads (especially) this thread here....

EDIT:
This all started because of threads in which people were talking about (attempting) editing TLB files, which are a part of exe files.
They also weren't closed.
(I know it sounds childish to say "they also weren't closed" but I think it's right to mention it in this case)

[Banshee]

Originally Posted by pd

This all started because of threads in which people were talking about (attempting) editing TLB files, which are a part of exe files.
They also weren't closed.
(I know it sounds childish to say "they also weren't closed" but I think it's right to mention it in this case)

Deezire himself worked on them, pd.

[AlliedG]

so how long before Deezire makes a decision? he's really neglected the RA2 Community ...

[Komataguri]

UNlike some of you, DeeZire has a life. He can't be here Johnny on the spot to answer a question.


If you don't like that all we did is put something on hold until we get confirmation or not, Feel free to pack your shit up and leave. cause I don't want to ddeal with you whining bastards.

[Hunt7s]

Hey we all have lives m8, we all are doin this in our own times.
Some of use just do all this to better ourselves, and to learn for our jobs.

[tesla3090]

As much as I like the EXE hack idea I have to agree with Koma. If EA decides it is illegal we don't want Deezire to get in legal trouble. :/